Hardcore

6 thoughts on “Hardcore”

  1. Thank you for writing this. You hit the nail on the head. It’s not about the initial comment anymore, it’s about how he chooses to engage with real women – not theoretical women impacted by being women – but real women who are upset and are using the one medium that gives them a voice that feels kinda safe.

  2. I think posting stuff from his personal FB and calling out things he said years ago and has since apologised for is really stink. I get why people got frustrated at the initial stuff, but the way you jump on people who mean well but screw up is really harsh. It is a form of bullying, and it’s sad you don’t see it. Twitter would be so much more positive with less of this nonsense on all sides.

    I see your hearts are in the right place, but you know what? So was his. People don’t need to treat each other like this. Try to give people the benefit of the doubt – this guy does a lot of really positive stuff on mental health. There are a lot of twitterers who thrive on bringing down others for even a slight disagreement, and it’s poisonous.

    You have been told this before by plenty of people, but no doubt you’ll write me off. Go ahead. But good people don’t do this to others, whether you think it’s for a good reason or not.

    1. I think some of the criticism in your comment is unfair. In the post Tangerina acknowledges that Hardcore has done positive work in the area of mental health and gendered violence. And she says that the response from #mybodymyterms should have focused on how campaign members are going to mess up sometimes and that’s ok but are expected to do better. I don’t think that constitutes “jumping on people that mean well but screw up”.

      The focus of her article seems to be that it was Hardcore’s response to stuffing up that was most disappointing, rather than his initial comment. And also the fact he undermined the sincerely and credibility of his apology with his subsequent comment on FB.

      The irony is that you are probably asking Tangerina to give a heck of a lot more slack to Hardcore than she ever receives from people who don’t agree with her, as a female blogger.

      Moreover, as Tangerina says, Hardcore’s position as a respected commentator on social issues makes it even more important that he be called out, before he undermines the change he is trying to bring.

      I agree with you that there’s a lot of poison on Twitter, I just don’t think Tangerina adds to it, especially not with the post.

      1. True, maybe I am expexting more from her than I should. I generally hope that people abide by the ‘don’t be a dick’ rule. But if Tangerina wants to fight against social media harrassment and bullyinh, it may be worth examining her own glass house for cracks.

        It’s fine for Tangerina to have her opinion on Richie’s public statements. But she’s not automatically in the right when she shares his private FB posts and brings up years-old issues that have been sorted.

        I would argue that she is indeed part of the poison, as many people (including lefty women and feminists) have left Twitter due to how they have been treated, and her name pops up more than it should. That’s poisonous in my book. I’ve seen plenty of it myself, although fortunately never been a target.

        “Calling people out” is how everyone reacts to everything, and it’s so unnecessary. Not everything has to turn into a public shitshow for Twitter likes. Try a DM sometime. Everyone deserves more kindness than they get (including you, Coley. You generally seem very nice when someone’s not being hounded).

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